Scam/Warnings Reports (PreMoney) - HYIP

shriganesh · 10-07-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RichBizz

I am not investor in this site but let me know ,some monitors has showing this site is paying but another some monitors has showing problem/scam, which is true ???

As far as I know it's paying. Some payments may be delayed some of the times, but I have observed in all my research that it's paying. Not only this, I have multiple times posted the complete payment report i.e. not just the copy paste, but the complete header file with every possible thing.

What I understand is that they are trying to pay as far as possible to everyone except a few cases where the payment is high. However let me tell you that they are not scamming. If they would have scammed then no one would have receieved payment and admin replies to all my email immediately. So, under such circumstances how can I allegate that they are scam. In my view and as far as I tested withdrawals, all are working. For some people who say that their withdrawals are not getting processed, then I would say that it's natural because when a hyip is new it's a very complex work for high amount withdrawals to get processed untill the site becomes 60-90 days old and it gets more and more investors. Rotating money in hyip is only possible when investment amount increases in the company. Due to this, the admin of any hyip(NOT only premoney) what they do is first pay to all those withdrawals which are smaller in amount in order to maintain the balance between large amount withdrawals and small amount withdrawals. Once they are 60-90 days old, more and more investors comes in and their investment amount starts rising after which even the large amount withdrawals do not face any problem.

Just before few minutes, username:Mbah sent me all details and I am investigating his allegations about premoney.com and send you a perfect report.

Kalpesh Sharma

RichBizz · 10-07-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shriganesh

As far as I know it's paying. Some payments may be delayed some of the times, but I have observed in all my research that it's paying. Not only this, I have multiple times posted the complete payment report i.e. not just the copy paste, but the complete header file with every possible thing.

What I understand is that they are trying to pay as far as possible to everyone except a few cases where the payment is high. However let me tell you that they are not scamming. If they would have scammed then no one would have receieved payment and admin replies to all my email immediately. So, under such circumstances how can I allegate that they are scam. In my view and as far as I tested withdrawals, all are working. For some people who say that their withdrawals are not getting processed, then I would say that it's natural because when a hyip is new it's a very complex work for high amount withdrawals to get processed untill the site becomes 60-90 days old and it gets more and more investors. Rotating money in hyip is only possible when investment amount increases in the company. Due to this, the admin of any hyip(NOT only premoney) what they do is first pay to all those withdrawals which are smaller in amount in order to maintain the balance between large amount withdrawals and small amount withdrawals. Once they are 60-90 days old, more and more investors comes in and their investment amount starts rising after which even the large amount withdrawals do not face any problem.

Just before few minutes, username:Mbah sent me all details and I am investigating his allegations about premoney.com and send you a perfect report.

Kalpesh Sharma

Thanks Kalpesh, you are really great. I am one of the follower of you. Best wishes and good luck my friend.

foxtrat · 10-07-2011, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichBizz

I am not investor in this site but let me know ,some monitors has showing this site is paying but another some monitors has showing problem/scam, which is true ???

Hi,

I've been with premoney for quite some time now, just switched back to 0% compounding., as of this moment I've been getting my withdrawals everyday, instantly. Hope it'll stay that way.....

I'll keep you guys posted if there's been any changes.

mbah · 10-07-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shriganesh

As far as I know it's paying. Some payments may be delayed some of the times, but I have observed in all my research that it's paying. Not only this, I have multiple times posted the complete payment report i.e. not just the copy paste, but the complete header file with every possible thing.

What I understand is that they are trying to pay as far as possible to everyone except a few cases where the payment is high. However let me tell you that they are not scamming. If they would have scammed then no one would have receieved payment and admin replies to all my email immediately. So, under such circumstances how can I allegate that they are scam. In my view and as far as I tested withdrawals, all are working. For some people who say that their withdrawals are not getting processed, then I would say that it's natural because when a hyip is new it's a very complex work for high amount withdrawals to get processed untill the site becomes 60-90 days old and it gets more and more investors. Rotating money in hyip is only possible when investment amount increases in the company. Due to this, the admin of any hyip(NOT only premoney) what they do is first pay to all those withdrawals which are smaller in amount in order to maintain the balance between large amount withdrawals and small amount withdrawals. Once they are 60-90 days old, more and more investors comes in and their investment amount starts rising after which even the large amount withdrawals do not face any problem.

Just before few minutes, username:Mbah sent me all details and I am investigating his allegations about premoney.com and send you a perfect report.

Kalpesh Sharma

Kalpesh,

I really appreciate for your kindness. So, after done researching of my investation, what do you suggest is to keep waiting until they had stable fund balance, they WILL pay all my pending withdrawal, okay?

If you telling this based on your HYIP experienced, I will follow you.

Thanks

shriganesh · 10-07-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by foxtrat

Hi,

I've been with premoney for quite some time now, just switched back to 0% compounding., as of this moment I've been getting my withdrawals everyday, instantly. Hope it'll stay that way.....

I'll keep you guys posted if there's been any changes.

That's right, even I am getting paid daily. Even I tested this.

Some people with high withdrawal values are facing a bit problem. But I will soon come back on this after my investigations for mbah is completed.

BUT THOUGH EVERYONE NOTE CAREFULLY:

1) If a new hyip makes withdrawal late, then it does not prove that it's SCAM. Because it's natural for any new hyip to maintain the balance between small and large withdrawals. Even if you or me were in the place of premoney.com admin then we would also have to had face that problem if we started our won new hyip, but these problems are temporary and does not in any way prove that it's 100% SCAM. There is a difference between a hyip doing 100% scam and those which delay the withdrawal.

2) Let's take the example of safedepositary.com which is one of the reputed brand name in market and top ranked on all monitors. They did have a conference so they did not pay 3 days to investors. But no one claimed them to be scam. Because there is common sense which investor's needs to use and the most important part of the overall thing is that many people do not even understand the complete procedure of how the hyip industry works. I posted a very nice educative material about how the hyip industry works, how investors need to keep patience, why investors needs to keep patience, what are the things which needs to keep in mind, etc. etc. But hyipexplorer.com admin removed so much valuable post by banning my account. So, when we all investors do co-operate with safedepositary because it's lifetime is older then premoney, then why NOT do we also co-operate premoney? If we all co-operate and wait and send mail to him and ask help from him or ask him why the withdrawals of high value are late, then I am sure he will do needful.

But anyway, things can work effectively only when admins of hyips and investors co-operate. It's not only the fault of admins. Because recently I posted that how winnerearn.com is sending threat emails and doing hacking attempts and sending spoofed emails on the name of superhotpay, large-profit and trust-income? Also there are some people on this forum who unnecessarily posts fake reports, fake and negative posts about genuine hyips, etc. etc. Then tell me how a hyip will become successful if this type of things continue. Do you all know that one negative post = 10 investors leave a hyip resulting for the hyip to scam because the admins of hyips are helpless when the incoming revenue is affected. There are lot of things to understand both for investors as well as for hyip admins.

Kalpesh Sharma
Technical Intelligence Expert
Research Expert
IT Security Expert
pvtint at gmail dot com is my private email id if anyone have any queries or want suggestions or my opinion on any hyip or if anyone wants me to research the facts and figures of any hyip.

shriganesh · 10-07-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mbah

Kalpesh,

I really appreciate for your kindness. So, after done researching of my investation, what do you suggest is to keep waiting until they had stable fund balance, they WILL pay all my pending withdrawal, okay?

If you telling this based on your HYIP experienced, I will follow you.

Thanks

Yes, this is what I believe in your case. But yet my research on your queries and premoney.com account is not over. I will get back with more results for you. Please wait and give me some more time.

Don't worry, I will try to help you as much as possible for me. However, you also need to understand one more thing. Every hyip has terms in their hyip and T&C page, that we cannot post negative comments about any hyip on internet until we keep getting paid regularly without problems. So, as far as my payments are coming, I cannot post negative things about premoney.com else they will ban my account by taking advantage of the terms and conditions mentioned on their website. So, what you need to understand is that there are many things for which I am helpless to post here else my investment will also get forfeited. This is also a bitter fact.

So, the issue here is that I want to help you, but at the same time I also have to maintain the relationship and their terms and conditions specified on their website on my part. I hope you understand these things very well. I am so open with you in this post.

I have mailed to admin of premoney also about your matter. Let me see what he replies back.

Sincerely

Kalpesh Sharma

shriganesh · 10-08-2011, 12:38 AM

As I told, you I made this another withdrawal and below are my researched reports in the same method as I did prove in above posts on this thread:

Email with header file, ip address, mail server, batch number, source and destination account numbers, etc. so that no one can challenge me for posting fake payment reports ==============

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Dear Kalpesh,

You have received a payment to your account U6864337:

Date: 2011-08-10 07:27:19
Batch: 72881774
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Amount: $0.90
Memo: Withdraw to shriganesh from PreMoney

Thank you.

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Evidence two: The above payment is latest. Check on original libertyreserve.com website:

libertyreserve.com/en/services/search

by entering the details.

What else shall I say now, when I am being paid. As concerns to whether premoney paying to some people and NOT paying to some people i.e. what is called selective payments; I am helpless to say anything on that part until I do not have evidence.

Sincerely

Kalpesh Sharma
Research Expert
IT Security Expert
Technical Intelligence Expert

GODBLESS · 10-08-2011, 03:32 AM

I tested their withdrawal request. It is instantly credited to my LR account. Thanks to the Admin and keep up the good job. We will support you.

foxtrat · 10-08-2011, 09:18 PM

Got paid again today, Instantly...Way to go PreMoney!

shriganesh · 10-08-2011, 11:40 PM

Complete and genuine payment report with header file as usual. Everyone of you can check my all payment reports anytime on

libertyreserve.com/en/services/search

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Dear Kalpesh,

You have received a payment to your account U6864337:

Date: 2011-09-10 06:23:24
Batch: 72956171
From Account: U7404785
Amount: $0.90
Memo: Withdraw to shriganesh from PreMoney

Thank you.

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Regards,
Kalpesh Sharma
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