Scam/Warnings Reports (PreMoney) - HYIP

mbah · 10-07-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by shriganesh

If this person is telling truth, then I will find out the facts and try to definitely help him. But I cannot promise like that because we all know that many people claim that they lost thousands of dollars but actually their intention is to post something negative about a particular hyip. With premoney.com I never faced this problem. But though I am not yet sure who is right and who is wrong and whether this person is saying truth? Because experienced people from a human psychological point of view will never invest such a big amount at once in a hyip and that too a new one, while there are so many hyips ranked on top list from last 1 and half years such as safedepositary, reprofinance, macrotrade, etc.

There are possibilities of one of the following things:

1) Either this person is a fake posted and is lying about 5400 investment at premoney.

OR

2) If he is not lying then I will investigate it in depth. And that this person is newbie and did invest with closed eyes without proper research or opinion from some experts.

Regards,

Kalpesh Sharma

Hi Kalpesh,

I'm telling the truth, my mistake not research properly on this site. My research is just on domain registration since 2001 until 2018, i havent found article how to manipulate domain registration, so i put a lot of investation, my mistake again. I also have conversation with Indonesian who invest $6000 since first day NEVER been paid by this premoney, IT'S VERY BAD. So my conclusion is, if you invest a lot of thousand dollar, they will selective about payment.

And for my bad experience, i just want to share to this forum..
I'm not a HYIP's competitor.

xyverster · 10-07-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ansorigrezz

bener sekali, he is a good teacher.
jujur saya bingung di web ini, PM kok distatus "gak bayar", padahal saya tiap hari dibayar mas. sy kemarin protes, tapi kayaknya ga dimuat di forum ini, saya kirim bukti pembayaran PM.
lebih bingung lagi superhotpay yg sudah jelas2 kirim email dia ga bisa bayar malah ditempatkan di urutan atas.
saya Ansori, di Pasuruan, Jawa Timur. kenalin deh mas ..! sukses untuk Anda.

Nah itu dia...aneh ya forum ini..itu lagi jelas jelas after60days udah scam masih aja ada bannernya, emang ada aneh2nya..bukti pembayaran saya juga ada saya postkan tapi gak pernah nongol disini. yah emang beberapa dolar aja seh.
tapi bisa saya buktikan diblog saya tambah-pintar.blogspot.com dibagian listhyip.
saya ikut bermain jadi apa yang saya masukkan ke blog itu smua dari pengalaman sndiri, makanya hyipnya pun masih terbatas.

as this person said, some of our proofment with screenshoot not being post by this admin, and hope those people said has been scam will proof they are being scam by message us his proofment links. tq
this 8oct2011 (2am +gmt indonesia) i still being paid instanly by PM

Nevermoredewo · 10-07-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mbah

sorry to speak indonesia.

Bos, gw jg orang indonesia. Anda invest brapa? kemarin saya ada chating di group premoney di facebook dgn orang indonesia jg. Dia invest $6000, dari hari pertama belum dibayar. saya invest $5400, dibayar cuma 5 x $300, hari ke 6 sampai sekarang saya ga dibayar lagi...kalo ga percaya saya bisa screen capture upload ke imagehosting, kalo gak percaya jg saya kasi pinjam login saya di premoney.

Saya orang indonesia pak mohon pencerahan ...saaya mau masuk 5000$. Tapi saya takut gk. Byar apa web ini bisa dpercaya????
Klo pun web ini scam apa ada gk hyip yg bagus ???? Makasih mohon pencerahandan bukti ini web g d byar

suziemawi · 10-07-2011, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbah

Hi Kalpesh,

I'm telling the truth, my mistake not research properly on this site. My research is just on domain registration since 2001 until 2018, i havent found article how to manipulate domain registration, so i put a lot of investation, my mistake again. I also have conversation with Indonesian who invest $6000 since first day NEVER been paid by this premoney, IT'S VERY BAD. So my conclusion is, if you invest a lot of thousand dollar, they will selective about payment.

And for my bad experience, i just want to share to this forum..
I'm not a HYIP's competitor.

i believe you with this. yesterday i was told by my friend that premoney really pay selectively. investor of 5k still have their pending withdrawal

shriganesh · 10-07-2011, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbah

Hi Kalpesh,

I'm telling the truth, my mistake not research properly on this site. My research is just on domain registration since 2001 until 2018, i havent found article how to manipulate domain registration, so i put a lot of investation, my mistake again. I also have conversation with Indonesian who invest $6000 since first day NEVER been paid by this premoney, IT'S VERY BAD. So my conclusion is, if you invest a lot of thousand dollar, they will selective about payment.

And for my bad experience, i just want to share to this forum..
I'm not a HYIP's competitor.

As I told, you I made the withdrawal and below are my researched reports:

Email with header file, ip address, mail server, batch number, source and destination account numbers, etc. so that no one can challenge me for posting fake payment reports ==============

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Thread-Topic: Liberty Reserve Payment Received
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Dear Kalpesh,

You have received a payment to your account U6864337:

Date: 2011-07-10 11:25:00
Batch: 72798353
From Account: U7404785
Amount: $0.89
Memo: Withdraw to shriganesh from PreMoney

Thank you.

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============================================ Please note that in all e-mails from Liberty Reserve we will: Always address you by your first name. Never send you any links or attached files. Never ask you to send us your password and/or login PIN. ========================================== ==Dear Kalpesh,You have received a payment to your account U6864337:Date: 2011-07-10 11:25:00 Batch: 72798353 From Account: U7404785 Amount: $0.89 Memo: Withdraw to shriganesh from PreMoney Thank you.
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Evidence two: The above payment is latest. Check on original liberty reserve website:

libertyreserve.com/en/services/search

by entering the details mentioned above about my payment from PREMONEY to MY LR ACCOUNT.

What else shall I say now, when I am being paid. As concerns to whether premoney paying to some people and NOT paying to some people i.e. what is called selective payments; I am helpless to say anything on that part until I do not have evidence.

Mbah, can you send me the complete emails with header file of deposit and withdrawals, username/password of your premoney.com account, etc. for me to investigate your matter? Because without all these stuffs I cannot investigate anything.

Sincerely

Kalpesh Sharma
Research Expert
IT Security Expert
Technical Intelligence Expert

shriganesh · 10-07-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by suziemawi

i believe you with this. yesterday i was told by my friend that premoney really pay selectively. investor of 5k still have their pending withdrawal

Can you ask that person to contact me. I will try to investigate his account and data.

I will have to go in depth about premoney.com when so many people are claiming so much. But to be very honest with all of you, as stated in my research and payment reports on this thread, it's clear that till date I have receieved all my payments from premoney.com instantly. You can check it yourself on libertyreserve original website about my payment reports.

Kalpesh

mbah · 10-07-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nevermoredewo

Saya orang indonesia pak mohon pencerahan ...saaya mau masuk 5000$. Tapi saya takut gk. Byar apa web ini bisa dpercaya????
Klo pun web ini scam apa ada gk hyip yg bagus ???? Makasih mohon pencerahandan bukti ini web g d byar

Coba liat HYIP yg persen nya dikit pak, mungkin lebih baik invest disitu untuk jumlah besar, tapi mungkin lebih baik lagi di split yg 5000$ nya.

ansorigrezz · 10-07-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mbah

sorry to speak indonesia.

Bos, gw jg orang indonesia. Anda invest brapa? kemarin saya ada chating di group premoney di facebook dgn orang indonesia jg. Dia invest $6000, dari hari pertama belum dibayar. saya invest $5400, dibayar cuma 5 x $300, hari ke 6 sampai sekarang saya ga dibayar lagi...kalo ga percaya saya bisa screen capture upload ke imagehosting, kalo gak percaya jg saya kasi pinjam login saya di premoney.

sy invest $500 dan $1500, total $2000, semua dibayar boz. malah yg $1500 sy dpt bonus $86.68 (ini sy compound 100%). saran saya, klo Anda invest diatas $5000, scepatnya Anda minta jaminan bank. semoga semuanya berjalan lancar..!

mbah · 10-07-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ansorigrezz

sy invest $500 dan $1500, total $2000, semua dibayar boz. malah yg $1500 sy dpt bonus $86.68 (ini sy compound 100%). saran saya, klo Anda invest diatas $5000, scepatnya Anda minta jaminan bank. semoga semuanya berjalan lancar..!

udah BEP blum bos? kita liat dulu yg range 1000-2000 kalo sudah BEP apa masih bayar si premoney? dan jaminan bank, jaminan bank apa? saya sudah message premoney untuk balikin principal saya, tapi ga ada balasan

RichBizz · 10-07-2011, 09:21 PM

I am not investor in this site but let me know ,some monitors has showing this site is paying but another some monitors has showing problem/scam, which is true ???